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	<title>Comments on: Wonderful World of WERs</title>
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		<title>By: Ian Finch</title>
		<link>http://www.glasstalk.co.uk/blog/wonderful-world-of-wers/2010/03#comment-28</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Finch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 16:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn&#039;t agree more. The whole solar gain element of the WER scheme seems to me like so much smoke and mirrors, designed to add some apparent &#039;science&#039;, but which in reality creates a scheme in which the rating does not correlate to what customers actually want.

U values seem to me to be more easily understood and to tally better with what consumers want, which is a product that insulates well.

And while we&#039;re on the subject, the guidance for issuing WER certificates seems very confused. There is much talk about &#039;A rated Jobs&#039; (etc), but as I understand the scheme, no such thing exists as ratings apply to individual windows not to a whole house full. Fabricators are, however, issuing  certificates for complete jobs, which may well include non-WER products (including doors, and where are we with a scheme for those??).

There is no doubt that having a scheme for energy rating is required, but sadly what we have at present is incomplete, arguably over complex and in my view poorly defined. I think the public deserves better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree more. The whole solar gain element of the WER scheme seems to me like so much smoke and mirrors, designed to add some apparent &#8216;science&#8217;, but which in reality creates a scheme in which the rating does not correlate to what customers actually want.</p>
<p>U values seem to me to be more easily understood and to tally better with what consumers want, which is a product that insulates well.</p>
<p>And while we&#8217;re on the subject, the guidance for issuing WER certificates seems very confused. There is much talk about &#8216;A rated Jobs&#8217; (etc), but as I understand the scheme, no such thing exists as ratings apply to individual windows not to a whole house full. Fabricators are, however, issuing  certificates for complete jobs, which may well include non-WER products (including doors, and where are we with a scheme for those??).</p>
<p>There is no doubt that having a scheme for energy rating is required, but sadly what we have at present is incomplete, arguably over complex and in my view poorly defined. I think the public deserves better.</p>
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		<title>By: LINDSEY FLOAT GLASS</title>
		<link>http://www.glasstalk.co.uk/blog/wonderful-world-of-wers/2010/03#comment-27</link>
		<dc:creator>LINDSEY FLOAT GLASS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 07:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The world has gone mad!
The BFRC need to have a more open approach to glass products in the market.  For example &#039;Low Iron&#039; glass is very much like Clear glass &amp; hold the same properties regardless of manufacturer.  If the simulators remain to specify that the glass products must be from the same manufacturer, then this is a serious problem for the Independent glass manufactuers.  The levels of glass stock will become overwhelming, needing to stock 3 types of &#039;Low Iron&#039; glass is absolutely ridiclious! BFRC lets publish some clear guidelines, then we can all be simulators.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The world has gone mad!<br />
The BFRC need to have a more open approach to glass products in the market.  For example &#8216;Low Iron&#8217; glass is very much like Clear glass &amp; hold the same properties regardless of manufacturer.  If the simulators remain to specify that the glass products must be from the same manufacturer, then this is a serious problem for the Independent glass manufactuers.  The levels of glass stock will become overwhelming, needing to stock 3 types of &#8216;Low Iron&#8217; glass is absolutely ridiclious! BFRC lets publish some clear guidelines, then we can all be simulators.</p>
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